Aftershow for Dynamic Banter - Dog Man Ft. Colin Mochrie! Ep. 411

 
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51:49 Would Mike defend Steve that strongly? Or would he join in on taking a dig at Steve?
 

Why is Steve being so defensive for Mike? Is it because after the episodes where Mike was unfair towards the fan that made "DB or Not DB" and after he was unfair towards Steve's feelings about an actor that now Steve is sensitive about people picking on Mike after reading the valid comments under those episodes? 🤔

I feel like if Will talked about having a list of reasons why he hates Mike two months ago, Steve would be chill and know that it's a joke. 
 

(I left these comments on YouTube and Reddit because I seen too many white boys being offended that Will used Mike for a joke, that I wanted to show support to Will.)

This was the the first time that Steve ruined a bit by taking it serious. I love you, Steve, that's why I'm disappointed you did not pass the vibe check, when you usually do! 

Kevin passed it though 😎

Are the boys going to defend Will from the DB subreddit of fans saying that he isn't funny like how the boys defended Kevin when just one fan said that they don't find Kevin funny on Reddit? 👀

(This is more rude than what was said about Kevin and the boys got triggered over that mild comment. And the comments on Reddit have so many upvotes for insulting Will. This fandom is disappointing me.)

I want Will on again with Mike so everyone can see how much they were overreacting. I bet Mike would've played along and made his own list to roast back.

It could've been a really funny episode, Steve.

Unofficial aftershow for the official AFTERSHOW: Bees

I was a fan since SourceFed and was excited hearing about Cloverfeels, Dynamic Banter and It Feels Like The First Time because I love Steve Zaragoza. But I was just a lurker and I'm sick of being one.

I agree with the quote, "Be critical of the media you love." I'm going to be critical for selfish reasons because that's what being a fan is all about! Like, nitpicking a series you love.

I've already started some "aftershow" posts of DB and The Valleyfolk in December, but now I feel like relistening to Talkin' Banter. 

I enjoyed finding Owlbynight's blog (and relating to his feelings on Steve).

1:30 Owen's voice is much more soothing than Kevins so it is a shame Owen doesn't want to be apart of the show as much Kevin does. I love listening to Owen talk. Brett's voice is hot too.

I love erotic audios, so I'm drawn to the sound of someone's voice. I don't get suddenly turned on but it is an immediate attraction to whoever is speaking. Like, seeing hot people in movies, you don't get horny on the spot but it's still nice watching them. So, Owen and Brett's voices are nice to hear. 

7:56 That must have felt so good to get that complement from Owen. (The Snapchat video he's talking about.)


10:14-11:20 Say it louder for Kevin in the back!
There's no "worry" that they will forget what they were talking about because Kevin makes sure the boys stay on track now. There's no "worry" that they will talk about a topic incorrectly because Kevin will look up the information. DB loses the magic of forgetting about topics because of a long bit and DB loses episodes where they "bungled it." 

Anyway, it's sweet how much Owen loves them. I hope that when Mike and Steve listened, they had the biggest smiles on their faces. He's their friend but he sounds like a fan in that moment 🧡 

I love Talkin' Banter so much for giving us a peek into their friendship.

15:40 Owen liked Ryan before they became friends!
Ryan is closer to Owen's vibe while Kevin is closer to Steve's. But "Kevin is the new Steve" doesn't fit because DB doesn't need a new Steve, so they feel the need to compare him to Owen 🙄

19:40 They haven't heard Mike's music yet.
I have 3 songs of his in a playlist on Spotify.

20:52 - 21:52 I agree with Owen.

24:51 He was in high school in 1996, I'm guessing as a Freshmen.
I didn't know there were so many Mormons in Phoenix until my Junior year, 2007. My cousin went to the same high school as me and became obsessed with a boy there and found out he was Mormon. She became interested in that religion just for him.

She brought that world into our lives 😒 Her mom became a Mormon then my mom did, for a while. Then my best friend (who was also her best friend) was looking into it but never joined. (Yay!) I was dragged to go to a few Mormon events but I was loyal (lol) to staying Catholic. (I'm not Catholic anymore but I still believe in God, just not in any religion.) 

It was good at least, to learn about them even if I didn't agree with them. I liked feeling like my world got bigger and made me really want to leave Arizona and travel. 

I got to go to Japan because it was with the school. If you take Japanese for 3 years, you can go to Japan during the summer.

(I'm the one with my hand on the wall.)

I also got to visit California with the school by joining the "Asian Studies Club." All we did was sell ramen during lunch time in that club. $1 a cup. If we each worked during lunch a number of times, then we got to go on the trip. It was a weird club because I don't remember studying anything... It was just a place to hangout with people who liked anime.

The teachers in charge of that club were smart. Got a free vacation every year because of over priced ramen 😂 but kids bought them. There was always a line, especially during winter.

(I'm on the left end, standing up.)

California and Japan with no parents, just my friends? I do feel lucky as fuck for being able to experience that.


Then I got to have a taste of camping with the school by joining a club(?) called "Bobcat Town." I only went one year and they only took kids who haven't been before so no one got to go a second time. We were told not to talk about it and the secret made kids interested to sign up.

My friendship with my best friend became stronger. We were put into small groups by random. We got sad and said goodbye to each other but we ended up being in the same group! Other friends got split up that we felt so lucky. We didn't say shit just in case the adults would change us out if they knew. 

The food was so good! I remember that very well. It was shocking how good it was. And our cabins were really cute and cozy. And it was the first time I got to play in snow.

Okay, so it was revealed that this camp was group therapy. We talked about race, gender role stereotypes, sexual orientation, religion, cultures, and our past and home life.

My friend and I talked about things that we didn't know about each other and stuff we might not have shared if it wasn't for this club (it was a three day thing). It pushed us to share our family dramas and it made sense why they didn't want close friends in the same group. People shared personal stories more easily with strangers. I'm glad it made us closer instead of adding an awkwardness between us. 

And that is why they don't want us telling anyone at school what Bobcat Town is. They said if kids knew it was heavy stuff then they wont want to come. They're right. If I heard that, I wouldn't have signed up.

If it rubs you the wrong way to know that adults tricked teens into getting therapy, just know that I'm glad I experienced it. But it was a risk making kids share trauma they aren't prepared to talk about. So, I wouldn't recommend it.

(Red is me and blue is my friend. The boring shirts they gave us on the last day.)

Anyway, I've also been to New York twice for Comic-con but that was only thanks to my aunt who paid for my plain tickets and my mom paid her back with payments.

(2013)

(2014)

I visited California again, for Anime Expo around 2011 (I think.) with my best friend but I guess we didn't take any pictures because I can't find any....

And now I live in West Virginia. I'm so happy to be so far from home. $425 a month for rent, in a house! I'm never leaving the countryside. 

(Bye bye, Phoenix heat.)

It's fun reliving and sharing my "History Road."

Owen says he grew up religious. I wonder how his family responded to him becoming an atheist. Was it easy to lose faith or did he struggle with it?

Not following Christian rules as been a struggle for my mom to accept. She's the only person in my life that bugs me about it. Everyone else leaves me alone, they don't "poke" at the topic with me.

I wonder how it was with Steve and his family. I love how much his mom supports him and watches everything he's in. 

29:46 I never had to go to a "church sleepover." Or any church event.

Other than my mom pushing us to go to church every Sunday, that was pretty much it. (Until my cousin became Mormon when I was 17). I'm so glad to have had a fun childhood where I could hangout wherever and with whoever I wanted to.

But Owen seeing the movie, Spaceballs at one, makes it seem like church sleepovers weren't that boring. Good for him. 

I do remember my first communion because my dad actually went to that.
But other than that, Sunday church was the only thing. 

My mom became strict once I turned 16 and started calling rock music, "evil." So, that was fun because almost every CD I owned was rock 🙃

30:08 My first R-rated movie was A Nightmare on Elm Street or Halloween. I loved watching scary movies with others. My friends, cousins and aunts would scream and it made me laugh and feel brave that I never screamed. (I jumped though!)

I was never interested nor "sexually awakened" by sex scenes. I always skipped them or muted the tv. So, what did it for me was when I was the only one up late watching random channels and seeing a Girls Gone Wild commercial. I was imagining myself in their shoes, being wanted by guys. I wasn't attracted to the girls, they were "self-inserts" for me.  

(I know Owen didn't expand more on seeing a sex scene for the first time but him just saying that made me think up my memory of seeing GGW.) But other than that, I never cared about sex scenes.

I did have cartoon character crushes though. Like, Sideburn from Transformers RID 😂

She gets me.

Cars are sexy 🤷

I loved going to the movies and sneaking into other rooms to see another. I always loved seeing two for the price of one. It made the money worth it and it helped pass the time during the summer. I hated being out in that fucking sun. I loved walking around Phoenix at night.

I loved seeing Pokemon on the big screen and getting a Ancient Mew card. The next time I visit Arizona, I should bring my card collection back with me. I feel like looking at them but I'm nervous to ask my mom to ship it to me. It would suck if it got lost or damaged on it's way over. 

For my 10th birthday, my parents made it Pokemon themed 🥳

(2000)

37:42 I bonded with my dad on movies too. My mom could watch horror and action but it wasn't her favorite. My brother hated horror, didn't even stay in the room to watch. 

40:08 I love how excited Owen is about doing an aftershow. He wanted to continue doing Talkin' Banter until that fucking negative email in episode 13. 

I know he would've quit sooner or later because the podcast about Lost was draining him but he wouldn't have given up that instantly if all they got was positive emails. 

That bitch took something awesome from the EZU and DB fandom that we'll never get back 😭

41:56 I have been watching and listening to everything. Owen is saying to do that as a joke. I'm doing it for real since the start of winter.

Other people that I've become a fan of on Youtube, I usually slow down with watching their stuff but I haven't with Steve's content. Since SourceFed, I've kept up with all his stuff. His vibe is nerdy "feel-good" and hilarious. It's really cool to find someone who has a kind heart and who is very funny. He's the best person on the planet. 

And with Owen being his best friend, Owen must be the 2nd best person on the planet. 


Anyway, thanks for reading.

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Aftershow for Dynamic Banter - Don't Try To Help, Jeff Ep. 402

Funny parts:
2:42 - 5:26

9:30 - 11:58

14:13 - 15:54

23:08 - 27:49

37:35 - 38:30 

They called out a fan for his criticisms on Kevin. He pointed out what Kevin does and said they didn't find Kevin funny. That was too much for the boys to handle. 

The fandom disagreed with that fan. Mommy and Daddy wasn't needed.  

Since they look at Reddit, why didn't they say anything about the post asking about their Patreon? It's mainly "Before The Banter." They choose to ignore the post letting them know we want more than just extended episodes...

They told him to become a Patreon if he wants episodes with Kevin not in it. But he's already a Patreon:

💔

Remember when they said this. I know people can change their minds and opinions on stuff they said in the past but that was one month ago 😅 Come on, ya'll.


1:04:30 Mike getting triggered.
It fits right up there with him being pissed about:
1. A "what if" scenario of some kid eating "his" slice of pizza to make a pizza sandwich.
2. Steve being excited about a star being named after him.
3. Nic saying cover songs of Creep are better than the original.

Mike is always experiencing the "What about me" effect.
Owen should tell him #NotEverythingIsForEveryone 

Those girls were either drunk, high or just playing Truth or Dare. It's so harmless and funny because of his reaction with the texts. It's only funny if boys do prank calls, not girls!!!

1:10:38 Only Mike, Steve and Kevin can roleplay and make jokes. No one else. Not the fan doing work for the boys and giving them a fun game to play on the podcast. 

They should be thanking this fan. That joke about Owen being canonically dead is the same energy that fan was trying to do with Mortimer. 

The joke can just be "canon" for a few episodes then forgotten. Not a big deal, Mike. 

That fan sounded so happy in that email. He wanted to roleplay in their joke about him while he does the work of coming up with titles. Don't want him to be silly then do the work yourself, Mike.

Instead of expecting the fan to be happy with exposure for giving you their time (again) coming up with fake titles from stuff you have said, how about you pay him.

Not all the fake titles are ones he made up on the spot. He put in the extra work to relisten to old episodes. Pay him. 

Steve would've played along for fucking sure. Steve knew that fan earned being silly. I'm just such a big Steve Zaragoza fan, I'm so glad he wears his heart on his sleeve because that makes it easier to know I'm a fan of a good person. (Same with Brittany Broski. She and Steve are the funniest people on the planet. I would love for them to meet someday.)

I'm happy every time he streams, makes a podcast, guests on other podcasts/videos. Anything he does, I like. He's so chill and can get along with anyone. I would love for him to show up on Rooster Teeth stuff again. They would fucking love him over there!

(Cloverfeels podcast review I left on iTunes.)

Congrats for ending the episode like a baby, Mike. I hope Owen laughed that you ruined the fun vibe because Owen was the one who wanted this game back. And he loves laughing at uncomfortable moments. 

If I was listening to a podcast with my two good friends as the hosts, it would be really hard for me to be mad at either one of them. I'm sure Owen didn't find Mike annoying for being a buzzkill. Owen seems just as chill as Steve.

Owen, thank you for allowing me to end on a sweet note by thinking about you being happy that the game is back 🧡

Aftershow for Dynamic Banter - Not a Constipation Situation Ep. 401

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They start by talking about how embarrassing it is to use the bathroom when it's located in the middle of a home. I agree with Mike, sad but true 😂 That judgment only goes away once you get to know that person better and more time of when that happened goes by.

But yeah, I remember not wanting to be around someone after hearing them take a nasty shit. 

I don't go out much anymore, I relate to Jesse on this. I stay inside my peaceful home, in the countryside. And maybe go out shopping once a month. The last time I've visited my home state to hang out with friends and family was around 2017.

So, I'm hoping I've matured enough that when I am out with friends and I meet a new friend and they shit real bad in a bathroom next to me, I wouldn't think they were gross. Because come on lol It's so unfair but we're human. We judge others for dumb stuff all the time. 

The best we can do is shoo those thoughts away and don't let it affect the way we treat them.


This topic reminds me of how the restroom was, at a church in Phoenix. There was a waiting room connected to the toilet room.

I hated seeing a line of people when I got out, when there wasn't one when I went in. But at least I was just a kid during that time. So, I had the privilege of not caring about strangers and what they thought of me. As a teen, we have that mindset of being "untouchable." That we can get away with anything because we can play dumb and be all like, "I'm still learning don't get mad or make fun of me 🙄" 

Anyway, it was fun looking up this church. It was a big part of my life because I was forced to go every Sunday until I went to college. I had fun spending Sunday mornings with my cousins. We were like best friends back then. So, seeing this is giving me a nice feeling:

But it was my friends and family that I really didn't want to embarrass myself in front of. I was always nervous that someone I knew was going to be in that line in the waiting room.

Many fans compared him to how Owen was but hell no. Owen was more aware about his commentary on DB. 

Kevin should continue the Talkin' Banter aftershow since he feels the need for fans to hear what he has to say. 

28:30 No one asked. Just tell them in private. Or in the comment section. Or in an email, like the rest of us who aren't hosts of the show. Even their good friend, Nic Hamilton sends emails. 

55:08 History Road.
They listen to episode 14 of DB and it's trippy because I just listened to it not long ago because I've been relistening to all the EZU stuff. And a fan on Reddit told me that their favorite DB episodes are the first 100 or so. I agree. It was so special before they moved out of Steve's home. Mike also said he loved recording there the most 🧡

I thank Alexa every time too.

3353 robot is cute:

Aftershow for Dynamic Banter - The 400th Episode Extravaganza!

(I was sad about this episode and I explain why but for my future self, and anyone reading, let's lighten the mood right off the bat by turning this into a drinking game. Take a shot every time the words, cheap and lazy show up.)


They call different guests..."yay" for bad audio from the phone calls 😑

Why couldn't they just be there in person? Not all in one episode but a whole month (or more) of guests on every episode for a real celebration. 

Let's Get Haunted had guests on for two months and as a "Halloween special" they did extra short episodes called, "What's Haunting You?" That took so much more work because they were meeting the guests for the first time themselves and the girls had to research topics for each episode. They made time to meet them off the podcast and on just to see if the vibe was right to collab with. 

They are such hard workers. And they are a smaller podcast. I was expecting more work to be put into it from Steve and Mike. They have more Patreons and more help so I don't get why this episode was the best they could come up with to celebrate 400 episodes. 

At least have Owen there in person to play on the keyboard for History Road. Or have Bree and DJ there to help with getting more people supporting the movie he's trying to make. Just something that isn't "Lets call our friends and asked how they feel about us having 400 episodes! Also, they can't hear the soundboard or see us so they can't fully joke along with us. It'll be good enough."

It's not. I love this podcast but this is really lazy. If Let's Get Haunted can work hard in a week to record so many episodes for the month and be funny, then so should the boys. The only hard part the boys had to do was hold the phone up to the microphone.

They should have an easier time because they can be in the same room. The girls can't, but that didn't stop them from making good fucking episodes.

Different👏Guests👏Every👏Week👏For👏Two👏Months👏(or more!)

I really feel Nat and Aly's gratitude and love for our Patreon support. While I just felt the laziness from DB because they "planned" this shit in a week.

(Nat and Aly would have kept track of the number 400 and recorded guest episodes early. Having each of the guests in the episodes from start to finish. And that's exactly what they did.)

A special return of the Talkin' Banter would have been better. If the 400th episode was just Owen and Brett talking about episode 399. And 401 was Steve and Mike doing the episode like 400 never happened.

That would have been so fucking funny and fun! A good inside joke for the hardcore DB fans. 

Or if Owen didn't want to be on camera, just have Brett and Chris with Owen off camera/off mic, adding to the conversation. Two inside jokes in one episode. 

Whatever, I guess that's what fans are for. The fans think up all the good shit that could happen and write fanfictions (or blog posts), do sketches, or make fanart of the ideas.

The boys are so funny but so lazy. They've seen the episode numbers. They had so much time to get ready to plan something and choose to wait for the last week to think. And all they came up with is phone calls. 

I'm not a hater or a troll, I'm just disappointed at the moment. By next week, I'll have "fangirl mode" on full force again. I'm not a mindless fan. I need time to get over this sour feeling and this blog helps. It's better than leaving a comment on their video or a post on Reddit, right? 

If they didn't have a Patreon I would expect just phone calls but they do and I wanted more love put into it.

Lets Get Haunted post extra shit on their Patreon like Vlogs, gaming and cooking videos. Pictures and blog posts. They make it feel like a fun nerdy club that is worth paying for.  

The girls don't just post extended podcast episodes on there.

2:24 "big big show"
They even point out that it doesn't seem that special. They know how cheap this is yet aren't sorry about it. 

The bit of how big the celebration is goes on and on. I'd rather they just acted like this was just a normal episode because this is just annoying. Just reminding fans how they didn't plan much for this. 

Maybe this episode seems more exciting to audio only listeners?

I know for a fact that the DB fans would hate this blog post 😅 Stan culture sucks. They wont let fans criticize the boys or Kevin because "true fans" accept and support DB no matter what:

(Even if you love Kevin, you have to know this is true. They were downvoted for pointing out this fact.)

4:07 They go into the technical difficulties bit 👌

11:16 First call is Ryan... I like Ryan but he started out as a fan, like Kevin. So, him being a guest is so lackluster... Why not just call people who have been their friend from the start? Joe and Elliott? Give The Valleyfolk podcast a shout out so the fans who only know of DB can learn of The Valleycast. If they love Steve, they will love him on other podcasts too. 

I know their friend group thinks that The Valleycast isn't worth listening to but it fucking is. Joe and Elliott are hilarious. On or off Zoom.
Plus, it's the fucking podcast they choose to promote Gunplay.

Yes, Ryan has been a big part of the show so why not have him on a full episode? Suck it up and have him on Zoom or do another VR episode. 

20:44 Second call is Harley.
Who I don't know because I don't watch his content. I only know him from the few times they called him before. Why not call people from SourceFed? Where's Will? Sam? Candace? Reina? Steven? Trisha Hershberger? People who DB fans will most likely know of and if they don't, they'll be interested in checking out because both Steve and Mike were on SourceFed too. 

Harley is a mystery to me. It sucks that Steve picked him to call just because he's playing Fortnite with him a lot. His Fortnite crew? Really? 

The chaos of a lot of guests would be funny if this was planned for weeks. But it's chaotic because they were lazy. It sucks how rushed this all feels.

I love Malcolm's response to Steve calling what they are doing on the podcast "work"

Yes, podcasting is work but look at the context of what they have to do for work and what others have to do. My husband works at 12pm and has to deal with the general public. So, if we lived near Mike's place and at 10am they were screaming into a microphone, they would wake my husband up early and call it important because it's "work." 

Malcolm asks who's their favorite guests and they can't even name one. "We don't have many guests" Seriously? Will and Nic? Owen?  The fact that they weren't prepared for that question is wild. 

Third call is Whitney, after they read the Ads.
I usually hate dream talk too but this could've lead into some funny jokes if she was the only guest.

52:17 Forth call is Felicia 🙃
Combine everything I said about Ryan with Harley and that's her. 

I think calling fans from their Patreon would've been better. It would actually be interesting because each fan would be prepared for the call and talk about their favorite moments.

56:47 This is a weird way to show it, Mike. Learn from Let's Get Haunted on how to show your love and hard work to fans next time. 

Malcolm asks them when did they start the show, right after Mike says "400 was a important number to us" and they both can't even answer it. They have Kevin look it up. How are they not prepared for that question?

1:03:56 History Road from Nic Hamilton because they couldn't call him.

1:08:47 Fifth call is "Sally" who they once had on the show before. This bit would've been funny if it wasn't in this episode. We could spent more time talking to Malcolm but no. Let's make him hear this inside joke. 

1:20:00 fans from the DB discord stepping up to really show the fucking love. Maybe if the boys wanted to not think about the 400th episode until the week of, they could've just read History Roads. Because we fans know how to really nerd out on the shit we love. 

The fans have made DB very funny. From sending in clips, videos, music, gifts, stories and bits. Fans helped form this podcast. 

The boys wanted to end the show not knowing that someone else was going to call. Are you kidding me? How can any fan reading this, think I'm being bratty? This "extravaganza" is rushed.

This is cheaper than the Zoom episodes because we know they worked hard to get the sounds to be as clear as possible during that time. This is just lazy with guests who don't get a full hour to be on the episode.

1:25:37 Owen is the sixth caller.
Owen seemed nervous that he didn't have a favorite moment thought up and had to think fast. But it's all okay, Owen. Because the rest of the episode has been a let down. Nothing you can do would make it worse. If anything, the fact that you care makes it better and worth getting to this point just to hear your phone call. 🧡

1:31:31 Chris is the Seventh caller.
I LOVED that Malcolm was reading old stuff Chris worked on. And I love finding out that he still listens to every episode, like Owen. Their support for their friends is so sweet. 

Thank you, Owen, Chris and Malcolm for making this episode worth listening to. What both Owen and Chris had to say about the show was very nice and adorable!

I'll end by reminding whoever is reading this that I still love Mike and Steve. I wanted some thought put into this episode like the thought they put into their awesome merch. 

Next week I'll be in better spirits. I know now to not be over hyped for DB episodes and Patreon content. Fans should just be okay, with a rare, extra long DB episode 👍

Aftershow for DB - Can You Smoke Piss Ep. 399

3:00 Funny bit.

6:17 Funny bit returns.

10:40 Reptilian Conspiracy.

20:00 Steve starts talking about Poor Things.
I've never seen that movie so I paused the podcast to go watch it and....I got 15 minutes in and stopped. It's not for me.

Did she not like Alana? 👀 I'm thinking this because why would Steve bring up showing his dates to her unless she didn't like someone he was dating in the past?
I'm being a nosy fan. Sorry! 

28:55 Funny bit.

37:47 Sleep standing up?
Them calling fans will always make me uncomfortable and I know, that's something I have to learn to get over. They were fanboying big time and I get it, I might do that too if I ever got a call from Steve but it was hard to listen to lol 

52:27 They're asking for fans to film themselves explaining what the show is.
I hope someone sends in a video of them saying, "It's a comedy podcast" and the person says, "Cool, I'll check it out" then the video ends.

It's not incorrect to just say it's a comedy, it's an accurate description. It's either going to be their type of comedy or it isn't.

With Steve and Brittany Broski being the funniest people in the world to me, I still explain their shows as comedy. It's not more complicated than that just because they're my favs.

They ask what fans would want for a 400th episode.
Here's what I would love:

I miss getting inside information into their friendship. And I miss Brett and Owen! 

54:50 History Road.

I loved the Pearl Jam themed song.

I wonder if this little version of the "DB or Not DB" made Owen happy.

I'm upset they ignored our comments last week. We know they read them and now it seems like they just rolled their eyes instead of hearing us.

Fans even said that they love the boys, just because Mike's comments rubbed them the wrong way, doesn't change that. We know at their core, they are good people. So, it's frustrating they ignored our comments but will talk about the comments mentioning the new intro song. In two different episodes.

They can't think, "fans should know us better than that" and "fans will never really know us."  Which is it?

I loved that during the BLM movement, Steve said that Dynamic Banter was 50% his so he wants to talk about the movement because it's too important to act like it's not happening. It's important for fans to know that they're more than just sarcasm and fart jokes.

I only know Mike from what he shares on DB, I don't follow his other content. If someone only knew Steve from DB, they would at least know, Steve's heart is in the right place. So, it's thanks to Steve that I know Mike's heart is too because Steve talks about Mike outside of DB. 


Anyway, when is Bree going on the podcast again? She's funny as fuck. 

Aftershow for Dynamic Banter - You Are My Ashtray Ep. 398

They talk about how it's hard to judge a famous person for a rumor when they too are kinda famous and hate it when fans judge them based on a rumor. 

Reminds me of the fans that believed Roosterteeth had something to do with Lee being voted out of the group. They were so sure of themselves that it was frustrating to see just how people can fool themselves to believe a story they made up. Thinking they're smart enough to guess the missing puzzle pieces is what makes fandoms annoying. 

I mention in another blog post that fans need to learn that friend groups fight and it's not realistic or fair to act like they all deserve a say in the fight.

11:35 Title bit.

They talk about the Harry Potter game and I had mixed feelings about it too when it came out. I don't like the bullying of people who just love Harry Potter and just wanted to play a game they dreamed about. 

But bully the fuck out of people who are only playing the game and talking about the game a lot because they agree with that piece of shit woman. 

I wish people would take the time to understand the context of someone's actions.

I've never gotten into Harry Potter but I understand wanting to play a fun game of a series you really love. It's hard making choices that is linked to hurt, hate and pain but if you don't hesitate and think about why people are hurting from this then you need to reflect on yourself. 

Don't hide behind, "a lot of people worked on this game" as a reason to buy it. You know you only buy shit because you like it, no matter how many people created it.

It's not always easy to choose between passions but if you don't stop and thinking before choosing then you really need to reflect on why it's an easy choice for you. Buy what you want but don't kid yourself into thinking that you're doing it to support the people who worked on it.

29:40 Mike should let Steve finish his train of thought.
I like that Steve has conflicted feelings. It's hard to see a face and hear an artist's voice when you know that they're a monster in real life. 

Mike is trying so hard to simplify that. Why? Let Steve explain and talk his feelings out. 

Let Steve share his thoughts without you cutting it short with jokes like, "actors aren't the characters" "every actor is a liar anyways" 🙄 We know, Mike but we aren't robots. We have to work through our feelings and I like that Steve was trying to do that. 

(I hope they see this comment and don't think the fans are all "outraged" because we aren't. Just frustrated but we still love them. We can be fans and not agree with them on everything.)

Cool it with the "everyone is telling the truth at all times" joke if it's just to shut down what Steve is trying to say because you want to cut it short.

(I agree. But with the 2nd comment, I understand Mike being upset that his friend would think Mike needed to be told that. But maybe ask, "what makes this friend think I need to be told this?"

Clear the air and have a conversation with that friend instead of writing them off. If they're a friend then they are worth listening to before unfriending, right? And I'm not saying Mike unfriended them, I'm saying this to the fans that agree with Mike and would unfriend that person without thinking about why that friend feels uncertain with your morals.

The friend is in the wrong too for assuming and tell that to them. No one is perfect. Help your friends fucking grow and help them back!)

Steve compared liking art made by monsters to seeing someone's face who broke your heart. I think that's perfect because I remember hearing certain songs that would remind me of my ex and I would get sad then annoyed. Or certain words they would say a lot and or someone else with the same name. It ruins those words, songs, games, and shows for a long time because it's link to that ex.
But those things don't always stay ruined and that's kinda what "separating the art from the artist" is like. 

I've been downloading everything Alana has been in with Steve because I'm worried they might delete videos and podcast episodes she was in. They were so fucking funny together, I don't want that content to just disappear.

All we know is that she broke up with him over text because Steve shared that information. She seems like a good person who did something hurtful. 

People are complicated. Which is why I don't agree with "stan culture" either. Lets all be fans of someone while knowing they aren't perfect. 

I love that Steve can "yes and" every time Mike interrupts him👌

35:22 Steve does a song.
Kevin dancing 🙃
Fridays are not Dynamic Banter day, it's Mondays. Lets be real. The video version is the only version that matters. 

I wish someone would record the full live shows that Steve does. I even get upset when I miss his live streams. 

One day, I'll be able to plan a trip to see him.
The only people I've met that I'm a big fan of is Trisha Hershberger:

Meg Turney:

And Alchestbreach:

(Those pictures were taken 10 years ago.)

I would love to add Steve to that list. I would love to meet Joe, Elliott, Mike, Owen and Brett too. All the EZU podcast boys mean so fucking much to me. I'm scared that by the time I save enough money to go meet them, they will be sick of doing live shows or meetups. 

48:25 Remix🎵

After the ads, they talk about the padding to make your features look bigger. 
I reminds me of a video I seen that butt pads are popular in South Korea with celebrities and they are shamed for it if people find out they use them. (So, I don't know why it's popular to use them...)

I agree though, it's not worth tricking the person that you have a different body if they are going to see you naked anyway and know the truth. But I can see it boosting your confidence, if you're just out to look nice, like wearing makeup or a push-up bra.

Aftershow for Dynamic Banter - A Time You've Never Seen Before Ep. 397

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1:35 Mike is hyper at the start of the show.
I like him this way!

19:04 Rock Band!
Steve streamed it this past weekend and it was great 🎵 😎

The tiny submarine is funny.

Kevin made me laugh.

50:53 Mike forgetting to eat.
This is not the same but I remember not eating much for days because I was glued to a game. That will never happen again. That was stupid. It's almost as stupid as working yourself so hard just for views and followers. I was at least having fun. There was no stress for me other than, " I should eat."

Lets all remember to stay healthy. 

57:16 Why do people watch him?
I'm with Mike, I don't understand how people can just watch dumb, random videos. But hearing Steve explain the weird shit he sees is better than actually watching the videos he's talking about.
Steve hypes it up. It's good to know that about him so I don't ever feel the need to go and search for videos he mentions. Its fine enough just hearing his version of retelling it.

Like, how I hate watching bad horror movies but I love listening to people talk about bad horror movies who LOVE those bad horror movies. (Dead Zone Drive-In, Ruined, and Dead Meat) 

I just never cared about Annoying Orange, Salad Fingers or the meme faces.
Or ugly cartons like, Cow and Chicken, Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Squidbillies. 

It took me so long to check out South Park because it looked so fucking stupid that I never gave it a chance until I was looking for something to watch while I was sick in bed and South Park was the only cartoon on and I ended up loving it.

So, maybe that could happen with the other weird shit I listed but I'm just not in the mood to give them my time when I have so much other stuff to watch and I know I love. That time when I was sick was a lucky break for South Park. Because if I had home internet, I would've never discovered my love for that show.

BUT I know I would love it more if South Park had beautiful animation. I don't know why comedy cartons NEED to be weird looking...

Thank you, Steve (and sickness) for sharing weird shit we might like. 

57:55 A call for new History Road theme songs.
I guess I agree. I just remember them having cool theme songs that they haven't played that much and I'm wondering why they don't use those to change it up.

But the fans always surprise me with how talented they are so I'm excited to see what new themes people will created for History Road!

1:00:25 Kevin seems annoyed that fans are emailing him.
Mike points it out.

-Kevin doesn't want people messaging him for History Road but he wont stop telling Steve which emails to read.

-Kevin doesn't want to be on mic, as a guest but he wont stop adding his commentary off mic.

We don't know what you want, Kevin. You're confusing us.

It's reminding me of how fans who become mods for streamers become elitist towards the rest of the fans who aren't mods, who aren't in the inner circle.

It wouldn't hurt if Kevin showed some sympathy for fans who really want to be noticed by their favorite comedians.

So many times, I've seen fans type in a chat about how happy they are to have caught their favorite streamer live. That they were having a bad day but being noticed had brightened it. 

I've been a fan of Steve and Mike since the beginning too and I never sent anything to them. I was a lurker for so long until this past December, I started doing the "Aftershow" blog posts to nerd out to them. And I finally sent in a History Road about me sending a letter to my dad. 

It's okay if it never gets read because it was just so exciting sending one in at all. If I ever get motivation to send another email, it will not be about my dad. I don't want to be one of those fans who sends the same email over and over again. Just seems too aggressive for me to do but I understand why fans do it.

Anyway, I just looked at it to see what I typed, just to make sure I didn't try to get Kevins attention and I didn't. But I know I thought about putting Kevin's name in it to get a better chance at being picked because I know that Kevin chooses the emails now. 

I'm glad I didn't put his name in it but since I thought about doing it, I feel sorry for the fans that did and are now being roasted a little for it. 

I guess Kevin wants fans to ignore him but how do we do that and accept that he's apart of the show? Fans want to send emails to Mike and Steve but Kevin is the one who will pick the emails based on if he thinks they are interesting enough for the boys to read but doesn't want the emails communicating with him. Hmm....

1:02:45 How to describe Dynamic Banter?
It's a comedy podcast. 

1:06:28 The title bit

I'm on the guy's side about the weird date location. The girl was strange for not telling him details about where they were. Because it doesn't give him a chance to understand her situation. 

They don't know each other so it's totally fine for him to not care about her being too shy or sad to explain why she choose that spot as a date. She could have made it not weird by just explaining it. 

Let's normalized honesty. Why waste time being vague? 

1:25:23 The boys are sad a restaurant they love is not around anymore.
It makes me want to walk around Phoenix and see what changed. I don't have a close attachment to food from restaurants or fast food places because when I'm hungry, any food is either amazing or it's shit. I don't think I've ever thought of a meal being "okay."

So, when people would argue over which place had the best pizza, burgers, tacos, fries or drinks, I didn't care about those debates. All and any of those places were good enough for me. 

But I can relate to being sad when a place closes down because of the memories connected there.

-I don't remember the food but I loved when my parents would take us to the Rainforest Cafe at the Arizona Mills because it meant we were going to shop for video games right after. 

-I don't remember the taste but I loved going to Pete's Fish & Chips because that meant it was movie night.

-I don't remember the name but I loved a pretzel place in the Metrocenter mall, where my friend got free pretzel balls one time and we had fun shopping for prom shoes. I bought pretzel balls every time I went to that mall since that time. They were cheap and just made me think of my friend, Connie. Who made me feel pretty and sexy. I never wore makeup or girly clothes until that year, I was 17.

I think I'll go around and visit those places the next time I visit Arizona. It's been a few years.

1:31:41 No soul in big company restaurants.
I think we need a different word for "soul" when we talk about stuff we love. I hate the word "soul" to explain what makes something good or to explain art. It's weird that atheists choose when to believe in souls and when not to believe.

And if you're rolling you eyes thinking, "You know what we mean." I do and I want you to say what you mean! The word, "soul" makes me roll my eyes. 

In Mass Effect, when Legion asks, "Does this unit have a soul?" There's no option to say, "I'm an atheist so no. No one has a soul." 


Thank you for reading my bratty tangent.

Aftershow for Dynamic Banter - No More Rooting or Tooting! Ep. 396

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3:15 Arcade memories.
I remember playing a sonic arcade game in Las Vegas.
I remember playing them in a pizza place in Phoenix.
I remember playing them on a date in Phx but it was awkward because I was too shy to really get into it. So, it just looked like I sucked at games. And being a girl, I really hate it when I look like I suck at games. I wish I could go back and just try, now that I don't care about that boy anymore. 

7:50 Calling their dads.
I always feel uncomfortable when they call people, I don't know why. (Unless it's their friends.) I hate when they call fans or family because they have to be censored in a way. I shouldn't care but it bothers me. I keep pausing the video. I need to get over this feeling.

I haven't talked to my dad in years. I sent my Tia, his sister, a letter to give him but she hasn't seen him yet. They're also not on speaking terms but she has a better chance of seeing him since she lives in the same city. Hopefully he writes me back when he gets the letter. I sent it in September. 

I think the reason I feel like cringing is because I could never be that open and nice to my dad, like Steve and Mike are to theirs. But shouldn't I feel jealous instead of cringe?

Mike making it sound like his dad is in a song was good.
And the last "Yup-yup-yup!" was great.

20:45 They say that old people get away with being assholes and unwilling to learn.
I disagree. Fuck that.

25:17 Where the episode title comes from.

37:57 Men who want to commit crimes.
Even if the pictures were created by AI it's still funny. Someone came up with the joke and just wanted realistic pictures to go with it because a big part of the joke is it looks real. (Or all those men are real and made the funny post together. Real or not, it was a fun find.)

49:21 They said that they love the new theme song and are keeping it.
Fuck the haters ✌🧡

56:20 History Road.
I would LOVE it if Mike and Steve had their own radio show. Hearing them live while knowing people are listening to them who have no idea who the boys are, would be so exciting! It's different from Steve live streaming because everyone watching is already a fan of his.

1:04:47 New clips from an email.
These emails were fine but I was hoping for actual stories to be back after the boys asking for them last week. I miss the fanfictions from the early DB episodes (and from Talkin' Banter).

My best friend sent me a Dynamic Banter poster for my birthday and it looks so nice 👌 I can't get a good picture because I don't have a good camera but it looks very good and it's right next to this one on my wall:

Aftershow for Dynamic Banter - Kevin's Sober and We Called God Ep. 395

 

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New intro theme! I love it! It fits perfect with their podcast 👌

6:49 Steve not knowing how to use ChatGPT.
I thought he would at least check it out by now since he was pro A.I. technology before. It's so easy to delete off the phone (or to sign out of on the computer) that it's not a big deal to use.

I love it more than Google. It goes right to the point. If you ask something important, you can always still google it to make sure it's correct. I usually use it for "how to" stuff, instead of looking up Youtube videos and recipe blogs. 

24:05 "Blood is the color of love" is so good. Makes me think of Yandere characters and the song, The Red Means I Love You by Madds Buckley.

26:46 "Dark show" info from Mike.
I love that ChatGPT is proving a good way to get quick info, even telling them to fact check everything they hear to not risk spreading misinformation.

38:08 Getting upset over comments on the internet.
It sounds so easy to just ignore strangers insulting you but it's not. It ruins hours of my day if I can't find something to distract me like a video game, movie or funny videos.
Hopefully I can learn to let things go when it's about me but when I see comments insulting Steve or the Valleyfolk channel, I get upset. 

Luckily, these blog posts help me focus my time and energy that would have been spent in the Youtube comments or Reddit. I can say whatever I want here without "poking" someone to respond to me. Also, having a paperback journal helps when I want to add something I can't here since this is public for anyone to read. 

More people should have blogs and journals to rant on. 

Franchesca Ramsey calling out assholes shows that sometimes it's good to shame negative comments publicly. Trolls feel powerful being left alone and I know some feel good when being noticed but not all of them. Most are only "brave" because they think they wont be called out. It takes time to learn which ones will regret leaving negative comments and which ones just want to waste your time. 

Overall, I think it's easier for men to ignore rude comments than it is for women.

57:57 Little did they know, they already have a "After The Banter" show.
It's this blog! I hope when they find this, they like it 👋

And Steve mentions Owen and Brett as a joke to their "Before The Banter" show. Maybe that's a clue that when they find this blog they would cringe instead of liking it. Because I know they think it's funny to imagine a "Talkin' Before The Banter" but fans would love it if that was a real thing. 
We miss Brett and Owen! 

1:00:54 They open late Christmas gifts from their friend.
(Again, audio only version of this podcast is pointless.)

Some of my Christmas gifts finally came in too!
My husband's grandpa paid our rent for a month 🧡
And my best friend, gave me an espresso maker and this manga 💖:

1:12:30 History Road
Going back to story only emails! Yes! Thank you, Kevin.

If they made those red hats, I would NOT wear them. It's funny but nah, red hats are ruined forever. It would have to just be sitting on a dresser or hanging on the wall.

1:22:31 Mike getting defensive for the people who named the days of the week.
...okay.

It ends with me seeing fans in the comments, say that they want the old theme song back. I hate when people wont give change a chance. They just notice it's different and get scared. But at least there are fans saying that they love it, so that's good to see.

I'm happy that the boys really love the new theme because the style of it fits the show so much better while still having a bit of the old song in it.